if you look at florida, where housing is a very big deal in florida. in florida it's been kind of a pretty stubborn unemployment rate. i think it's still stuck near where it was before. 8.7% today. that's exactly where it was when the president took office. it's come down from the peaks, but still basically where the president took office. and then in virginia you've got an unemployment rate that is also essentially gone up and come back down and it's essentially flat in virginia, too. it also depends on if there's a republican governor, as well. >> that's one of the very interesting things about the political dynamic. each of these states has a republican governor who is a key surrogate for mitt romney. that governor is unwilling to make the economic argument that times are awful because they're in office right now. so it's -- >> you can't say doom and gloom if you're trying to run for re-election later. let me ask you sheila about what you have said with both candidates. you've said you're disappointed with both. >> i don't think either one of them h